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Updated qualifier list in all three styles for World Team Trials in Ames, Iowa, June 18-19
5/16/2005
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NOTE - All qualifying events have now been completed
Women's Freestyle
48 kg/105.5 pounds
U.S. Nationals Champion - Sara Fulp-Allen, El Granada, Calif. (Menlo College)
U.S. Nationals, second place – Caitlyn Chase, Bloomingdale, Ill. (Gator WC)
U.S. Nationals, third place – Hana Askren, Los Angeles, Calif. (Santa Monica WC)
U.S. Nationals, fourth place – Katie Kunimoto, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Gator WC)
U.S. Nationals, fifth place – Laura Felix, Bakersfield, Calif. (Cal-State Bakersfield)
U.S. Nationals, sixth place – Rachael Holthaus, Little Falls, Minn. (Hi-Flyers)
U.S. Nationals, seventh place – Liz Short, Lombard, Ill. (USOEC)
Rocky Mountain Regional Champion – Christina Varland, Douglas, Wyo.
Northern Plains Regional Champion – Joey Miller, Woodward, Okla. (unattached)
Olympic Team member – Patricia Miranda, New Haven, Conn. (Dave Schultz WC)
Past World Team member – Clarissa Chun, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Gator WC)
2004 Sunkist Kids International champion – None, foreign champion
2004 NYAC Christmas Open champion – Katie Kunimoto, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Gator WC)
2005 Dave Schultz Memorial champion – None, foreign champion
International Tour medalist (within 2 yrs) –
*2003 World Cup gold medalist – Patricia Miranda, New Haven, Conn. (Dave Shultz WC)
*2005 Gilbert Schaub Open bronze medalist – Sara Fulp-Allen, El Granada, Calif. (Menlo College)
51 kg/112.25 pounds
U.S. Nationals Champion - Stephanie Murata, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
U.S. Nationals, second place – Malinda Ripley, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
U.S. Nationals, third place - Jenny Wong, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
U.S. Nationals, fourth place – Mary Kelly, Mahomet, Ill. (New York AC)
U.S. Nationals, fifth place – Elizabeth Torres, Kahuku, Hawaii (Pacific University)
U.S. Nationals, sixth place – Debbie Sakai, Miliani, Hawaii (New York AC)
U.S. Nationals, seventh place – Maika Watanabe, Napa, Calif. (Missouri Valley)
Rocky Mountain Regional Champion – No entry at this weight class
Northern Plains Regional Champion – Shandra Peterson, Lake Mills, Iowa
Past World Team member – Stephanie Murata, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
Past World Team member – Jenny Wong, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
2004 Sunkist Kids International champion – Stephanie Murata, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
2004 NYAC Christmas Open champion – None, foreign champion
2005 Dave Schultz Memorial champion – None, foreign champion
International Tour medalist (within 2 yrs) –
*2003 World Cup silver medalist - Jenny Wong, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
*2004 World Cup silver medalist - Stephanie Murata, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
55 kg/121 pounds
U.S. Nationals Champion - Tina George, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
U.S. Nationals, second place – Marcie Van Dusen, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
U.S. Nationals, third place – Sharon Jacobson, El Cajon, Calif. (USOEC)
U.S. Nationals, fourth place – LeAnn Barney, Austin, Texas (Rock Wrestling)
U.S. Nationals, fifth place – Chelynne Pringle, Hugo, Minn. (Minn. Storm)
U.S. Nationals, sixth place – Amy Borgnini, Terre Haute, Ind. (USOEC)
U.S. Nationals, seventh place – Dany Hedin, Honolulu, Hawaii (USOEC)
Rocky Mountain Regional Champion – Tina Pihl, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
Northern Plains Regional Champion – No entry at this weight class
Olympic Team member – Tela O'Donnell, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
Past World Team member – Tina George, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
2004 Sunkist Kids International champion – Tina George, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
2004 NYAC Christmas Open champion – Tina George, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
2005 Dave Schultz Memorial champion - Tina George, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
International Tour medalist (within 2 yrs) –
*2003 Henri Deglane Challenge gold medalist – Patricia Miranda, New Haven, Conn. (Dave Schultz WC)
*2004 Kiev Grand Prix silver medalist – Marcie Van Dusen, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
*2004 World Cup silver medalist - Tela O'Donnell, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Dave Schultz WC)
*2004 Henri Deglane Challenge bronze medalist – Laura Felix, Bakersfield Calif. (Cal-State Bakersfield)
59 kg/130 pounds
U.S. Nationals Champion - Sally Roberts, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Gator WC)
U.S. Nationals, second place - Tela O'Donnell, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
U.S. Nationals, third place – Brandy Rosenbrock, Harrison, Mich. (USOEC)
U.S. Nationals, fourth place – Suekoilya Shelley, Hurst, Texas (New York AC)
U.S. Nationals, fifth place – Brooke Bogren, Burlingame, Kan. (Missouri Valley)
U.S. Nationals, sixth place – Deanna Rix, South Berwick, Maine (S.M.T)
U.S. Nationals, seventh place – Leigh Jaynes, Burlington, N.J., (New York AC)
Rocky Mountain Regional Champion – No entry at this weight class
Northern Plains Regional Champion – No entry at this weight class
Past World Team member – Sally Roberts, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Gator WC)
Past World Team member – Lauren Lamb, Farmingville, N.Y. (Michigan WC)
Past World Team member – Erin Tomeo, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
2004 Sunkist Kids International champion – None, foreign champion
2004 NYAC Christmas Open champion – Leigh Jaynes, Burlington, N.J. (New York AC)
2005 Dave Schultz Memorial champion - Sally Roberts, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Gator WC)
International Tour medalist (within 2 yrs) –
*2003 World Cup gold medalist - Sally Roberts, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Gator WC)
*2004 Kiev Grand Prix gold medalist - Erin Tomeo, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
*2005 Ivan Yarygan Memorial gold medalist - Sally Roberts, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Gator WC)
63 kg/138.75 pounds
U.S. Nationals Champion - Alaina Berube, Escanaba, Mich. (New York AC)
U.S. Nationals, second place – Kaci Lyle, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
U.S. Nationals, third place – Jackie Cataline, Corona, Calif. (Cataline20s Wildcats)
U.S. Nationals, fourth place – Stefenie Shaw, Waterford, Conn. (KT Kidz)
U.S. Nationals, fifth place – Rachel Billerback, Pflugerville, Texas (Missouri Valley)
U.S. Nationals, sixth place – Na'Tasha Umemoto, Portland, Ore. (Sunkist Kids)
U.S. Nationals, seventh place – Laurin Daniels, Vashin Island, Wash. Menlo College
Rocky Mountain Regional Champion – Bethany Harris, Valley Center, Calif. (No Mercy WC)
Northern Plains Regional Champion – No entry at this weight class
Olympic Team member – Sara McMann, Lock Haven, Pa. (Sunkist Kids)
Past World Team member – None at this weight class
2004 Sunkist Kids International champion – Tori Adams, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
2004 NYAC Christmas Open champion – Alaina Berube, Escanaba, Mich. (New York AC)
2005 Dave Schultz Memorial champion - Alaina Berube, Escanaba, Mich. (New York AC)
International Tour medalist (within 2 yrs) –
*2003 World Cup silver medalist – Sara McMann, Lock Haven, Pa. (Sunkist Kids)
*2004 Henri Deglane Challenge gold medalist - Tela O'Donnell, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Dave Schultz WC)
*2005 Gilbert Schaub Open bronze medalist - Stefenie Shaw, Waterford, Conn. (KT Kidz)
67 kg/147.5 pounds
U.S. Nationals Champion - Kristie Marano, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
U.S. Nationals, second place - Katie Downing, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
U.S. Nationals, third place – Heather Martin, Wellington, Ohio (New York AC)
U.S. Nationals, fourth place – Shelly Ruberg, Williamsburg, Ky. (Cumberland College)
U.S. Nationals, fifth place – Ku20u Johnson, Honolulu, Hawaii (USOEC)
U.S. Nationals, sixth place – Andrea Hale, Chicago, Ill. (Lassen College)
U.S. Nationals, seventh place – Laura McDonald, Colorado Springs, Colorado (U.S. Air Force)
Rocky Mountain Regional Champion – Ashley Sword, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
Northern Plains Regional Champion – No entry at this weight class
Past World Team member – Kristie Marano, Colorado Springs, Colo. (New York AC)
2004 Sunkist Kids International champion – None, foreign champion
2004 NYAC Christmas Open champion – Katie Downing, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
2005 Dave Schultz Memorial champion - Katie Downing, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
International Tour medalist (within 2 yrs) –
*2003 World Cup gold medalist - Kristie Marano, Colorado Springs, Colo./New York AC
*2005 Gilbert Schaub Open gold medalist - Katie Downing, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids)
72 kg/158.5 pounds
U.S. Nationals Champion - Iris Smith, Colorado Springs, Colo. (U.S. Army)
U.S. Nationals, second place – Ali Bernard, New Ulm, Minn. (Univ. of Regina)
U.S. Nationals, third place – Randi Miller, Arlington, Texas (USOEC)
U.S. Nationals, fourth place – Donell Bradley, Aiea, Hawaii (USOEC)
U.S. Nationals, fifth place – Toni Copeland, McDonough, N.Y. (Shamrock Wrestling)
U.S. Nationals, sixth place – Melissa Simmons, Ridgefield, Wash. (Southwest Washington)
U.S. Nationals, seventh place – Tabitha Golt, Chesapeake, Va. (Cumberland College)
Rocky Mountain Regional Champion – No entry at this weight class
Northern Plains Regional Champion – No entry at this weight class
Olympic Team member – Toccara Montgomery, Cleveland, Ohio (New York AC)
Past World Team member – Iris Smith, Colorado Springs, Colo. (U.S. Army)
2004 Sunkist Kids International champion – Heather Martin, Wellington, Ohio (New York AC)
2004 NYAC Christmas Open champion – None, foreign champion
2005 Dave Schultz Memorial champion – None, foreign champion
International Tour medalist (within 2 yrs) –
*2003 World Cup gold medalist – Toccara Montgomery, Cleveland, Ohio (Sunkist Kids)
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Some Boys Won't Assume The Position With Girls
5/13/05
The father of a female wrestler is planning on suing, if necessary, to force male opponents to wrestle the female members of his daughters middle-school team. Jerry Connors' daughter, Meaghan, is a seventh-grader at McMurray Middle School on Vashon Island, outside Seattle Washington. Conners alleges that allowing boys from two private schools in their league to forfeit matches rather than have a boy wrestle one of the handful of girls on the public-school teams is a clear case of sex discrimination.
How many times has Meaghan Connors won a match by forfeit? As The Seattle Times reports, none.
Meaghan Connors and Sylvie Shiosaki find the sport challenging, fun and not at all sexual.
"When you walk on the mat, you're not a girl, you're not a guy anymore. You're just there to wrestle," Shiosaki said.
...Meaghan Connors didn't have to endure any forfeits herself this year. As a seventh-grader, she wasn't McMurray's best wrestler in her weight class, so she wasn't on the varsity squad, the only one that officially competes at the middle-school level. Still, she came home upset when [teammate Sylvie] Shiosaki got forfeits. She told her father she felt degraded, like an "object of lust."
Shiosaki said three of her 11 matches this year were forfeits from boys at the two schools, significantly shortening her season. That's what concerns her mother, Lonnie, who's supporting Jerry Connors' efforts. The lack of experience handicaps the girls when they go to state tournaments or even the state's all-girls exhibition tournament, she said.
So when you win or lose on the mat, that's not sexual; but when you win by forfeit you're an "object of lust?"
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Comments:
You gotta wonder about the boy wrestler's priorities and/or orientation... On the other hand, I sure wouldn't want any daughter of mine wrestling with their classmates on or off of the mat.
Posted by: Cybrludite at May 13, 2005 04:55 AM
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What's the world coming to? When I was that age I'd jump at the chance to wrestle girls. I'd have tried for a draw and the resulting rematch with the pretty ones.
Posted by: bullwinkle at May 13, 2005 06:50 AM
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I think the boys are in a lose/lose situation anyway when it comes to wrestling girls. If they win, they just beat a girl, if the lose, they got beat by a girl.
My daughter plays soccer on a boys indoor team, and our school is too poor for boys and girls soccer teams so she will play coed even when she moves up to Varsity level, but no way would I want her wrestling with boys-the feminists can call me sexist all they want, but in wrestling the hands go some places, I don't want them on my daughters even in a game.
Posted by: Just Me at May 13, 2005 07:08 AM
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Seems to me that the decision on whether to forfeit or not may not be made by the boys but by their coaches -- and I'm guessing some of them choose to forfeit out of "principle," in a similar fashion to how Johnny Kelly, the face of the Boston Marathon, tried for years and years to prevent women from running that race.
During college, I shared a farmhouse with a woman who had been a rower on the womens' national crew team (stroke of the 2d boat of 8's), and she used to arm wrestle guys for shots in teh toughest bar in Burlington VT (feh). I can't tell yo how many times I carried her out of that bar, after she had consumed a dozen or more free shots (she never lost one match).
Posted by: wavemaker at May 13, 2005 07:50 AM
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Hmmm.
While the idea of wrestling girls is a fun one the reality is probably far different. Can you imagine being on the mat and wrestling one of these girls and having her father freak out on you because a hand went somewhere verbotten?
I never got into wrestling much myself, karate was more my thing, but I just can't how this could possibly not go wrong.
Posted by: ed at May 13, 2005 08:09 AM
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JustMe hits the nail on the head. This is a lose-lose situation for the boys. And has anyone ever seen a female wrestler? I can't imagine they are something another teenage boy would look at as an "object of lust."
And this asshat father should check his priorities. Is it really necessary to call for a lawsuit with charges of sex discrimination? How ridiculous is that? You can't sue to force someone to do something, what kind of moron even suggests this. That whole article reads like a stupid PC liberal bullshit screed that will only ruin this sport more in the long run (that is if this asshat has his way).
Posted by: Mike at May 13, 2005 09:11 AM
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Ed and Mike: It's worse than that. The male wrestlers are forfeiting because they know that they go out onto the mat at a disadvantage: they know that if they touch the female in the wrong place during the match, they face suspension or expulsion. This is true even if the female doesn't mind; any third party (including the school administration) can charge the male with inappropriate touching, and there is no defense. Even if the male tries to ignore this issue, it's going to be on the back of his mind. That will make him hesitant, and in a sport like wrestling, to hesitate is to lose.
Posted by: Cousin Dave at May 13, 2005 10:20 AM
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I wrestled in High School, and had the misfortune of competing against a few women in my 4 years. My competitive drive precluded me from forfeiting, so instead I went out there and got it over with in a hurry. I was never worried about losing because I was in a lighter weight class -- there were no tough-as-nails butches with chips on their shoulders in the lighter classes. I did, however, have a teammate who lost to a girl -- she had about a .500 record -- and never lived it down (nor did we let him). From my experience, NONE of the women who stepped on the mat were anything you would want to get near, even after a 16 hour bender. "Object of lust?" No. Fear of the endless humiliation suffered by a man who loses to a woman on the mat? Yes.
Posted by: TheKid at May 13, 2005 10:24 AM
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The male wrestlers are forfeiting because they know that they go out onto the mat at a disadvantage: they know that if they touch the female in the wrong place during the match, they face suspension or expulsion.
Name one case where this has happened. Also, the people here talking about wrestlers worrying about "inappropriate touching" have clearly never wrestled.
Posted by: mantis at May 13, 2005 12:17 PM
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Luckily, I was graduating from high school just before girls really got into wrestling. I never had to wrestle a girl, although a few of my teammates did. I did have a fling with one from a cross-town school, though.
I don't see how the father is going to win the case. If guys don't want to wrestle her, and are willing to take the loss (in which wrestlers have so many matches during the year it's akin to a single loss in baseball or the NBA) then that's her problem. You can't make kids wrestle.
Posted by: Expertise at May 13, 2005 01:32 PM
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Perhaps a similar situation. I have a nephew who used to play in a teenage ice hockey league. They occasionally played against a team that had a girl on it and it seemed to me that these boys were very much less willing to be as physical with her than they were with her male team mates. I hate to sound like a cretin but there are sports that clearly (to me) seem to warrant definite gender segregation because of the physical nature of the sport: football, ice hockey, wrestling to name three. I cannot reconcile my feelings that girls should not be forced to adhere to some expected "lady like" norm that deprives them of their desires to compete with my alternative feelings that there are just some sports where boys and girls to not mix very well.
Posted by: DaveD at May 13, 2005 02:08 PM
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I already anticipate the labels I'll get, but . . .
Can anyone tell me what was wrong with the structure in which we enjoyed "boys'" sports and "girls'" sports? Some (basketball, for instance) were the same sport, sometimes with different rules, others (Football & Softball come to mind) were different, but together offered competitive outlets for both sexes. The whole notion springs from the concept that boys and girls are different.
What sort of position are we in when we're teaching kids to "celebrate diversity" at the same time as teaching them to ignore some of the most basic differences in humankind? More directly, what sort of position are we putting our kids in?
And what's really wrong with teaching little girls to be "lady-like" and teaching little boys to be "manly?" These "norms" lead to an organized society, in which all members know their places and excel in them. That sounds a lot better than the feminized, sterilized, mixed-up mess we have now.
Posted by: BoDiddly at May 13, 2005 02:31 PM
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We still do enjoy boys and girls teams in school sports. Basketball is still the same, baseball and softball too. However there are very few girls that choose to wrestle, and the choice is between letting them wrestle boys or not letting them at all. As far as this:
These "norms" lead to an organized society, in which all members know their places and excel in them.
Norms like cooking, cleaning, and keeping quiet?
Posted by: mantis at May 13, 2005 02:53 PM
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This is a difficult topic.
Still. It is best to let the individual and his family decide. The coach should follow school policy or quit. The opponent of the other sex has no right whatever to wrestle someone who chooses not to wrestle.
Consider the private school that says "no - boys can't wrestle girls". Well, the boy and his parents can leave the school. No one is forced to go there. It may be a difficult decision but it is the boy and his family who decide.
If the private school instead says "yes, you not only can but must" the decision is made the same way. And if the school takes no position the decision stays with the boy and his family.
The public schools and the state must also decide between "you must, you must not, you may". But they go farther and try to force their views upon all education.
The irriating thing about the public schools is not that people are forced to pay for policies they dislike. But rather that those policies are extended beyond any reasonable definition of education as part of a toolkit for life.
Public schools and state education authorities try, whenever possible, to go further and force private schools to adopt their view of "good".
A cynic might say that closely matches the definition of Fascism under Mussolini.
But no! That couldn't be.
Posted by: KenS at May 13, 2005 03:46 PM
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Mantis, I haven't found an example yet, but I guarantee you that within the next two years, it will happen. Remember, any third party can initiate an action. And, I'm sure there is some shyster laywer somewhere who can convince some greedy set of parents somewhere to send their teenage daughter onto the mat, for the specific purpose of generating a lawsuit. People who disagree can say "wrestling isn't sexual" until they are blue in the face, but it only takes one activist judge who thinks it is sexual to break the system. (Consider the lawsuit linked at the start of this thread. The female wrestler in question is tryig to assert her "right" to force other people to do something they don't want to do, in order to benefit her. Do you think she or her father would have any moral doubts about turning over the coin if they subsequently decide that some opponent went just a teensy weensy bit "too far"? I don't.)
Even more to the point: mantis, weren't you taught not to hit girls when you were young? For way too many male wrestlers, it simply goes against their upbringing to manhandle a woman the way you have to do in wrestling, even if it is only for sport. Whether they want to or not is almost beside the point; they can't psychologically get themselves into the mental state to do it. And so the girl wins because she's taking advantage of of the boy's refusal or inability to cast aside an ethics code that the same girl would demand that he conform to in any other situation. Poking around the net, I've found quite a few teenage male wrestlers saying that they have lost to girls because they couldn't bring themselves to do the moves, such as shoving forcefully at the girl's breasts in order to accomplish a pin, or grabbing her crotch for a reversal. I've seen several photos of girls wrestling in tank tops with the sides and armholes cut out, and just a sports bra underneath. Accidentally get your fingers hooked in that band, and the bra comes off and the male wrestler automatically loses for making an illegal move, plus faces the aforementioned sexual misconduct charge. Thus, the sides and the upper back become a no-touch zone for the male wrestler. The female faces no such limitation.
Other males, mindful of these problems, either refuse to wrestle girls or just take a dive. And now a few schools have figured it out, and they are recruiting as many female wrestlers as they can so that they can win matches by accumulating forfeits. So there is little actual wrestling taking place, and the sport becomes a complete travesty.
(The other thing in the Washington case is that they are trying to convince a court to force private schools that don't receive federal funding to comply with Title IX. This would be a substantial expansion of federal authority, and it is precisely the sort of slippery slope that Title IX advocates have always said can't happen.)
Posted by: Cousin Dave at May 13, 2005 04:31 PM
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Okay, here's a sort-of example. The Texas Wrestling Officials' Association was forced to disband after it was threated by the ACLU with a lawsuit for not sanctioning male-female wrestling. The TWOA officers couldn't get insurance to protect themselves against the sexual harassment lawsuits which might occur if they consented to the ACLU's demands, which meant that they were going to incur the costs of defending themselves against a suit no matter what action they took. The only way out of the catch-22 was to disband the organization. If the Texas Interscholastic Wrestling Association is forced to take the same action, then it's goodnight for sanctioned interscholastic wrestling in Texas.
(And I might point out that the refusal of insurance companies to write a policy to insure the TWOA's officers against a harassment lawsuit indicates that their actuaries, who get paid to estimate these sorts of things, consider it highly likely. If you can't get insurance against a certain bad event, then look out, because it is almost certainly going to happen.)
Posted by: Cousin Dave at May 13, 2005 05:13 PM
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1. The "touching" is not an issue. Or wouldn't be to most wrestlers. I mean, look, the regular wrestling is not homosexual. Why would it be hetero with a girl? It's really just a combat when you are in it.
2. We did not have m/f wrestling when I was in school. I really doubt many women could hang.
3. All that said...anybody want to grapevine? ;-)
Posted by: me at May 14, 2005 12:26 AM
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mantis
I cook, I clean...I am rarely quiet.
And in case your education is sorely lacking, men and women are inherently different. Get out of the basement once in a while, eh?
Posted by: Darleen at May 15, 2005 02:59 AM
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Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
- Timothy 2:11-14
Know your place Darleen.
Posted by: mantis at May 16, 2005 12:41 AM